Wisconsin Technical College
System Board
310 Price Place, PO Box 7874
Madison, WI 53707
Edward Chin, State Director
M I N U T E
S
State Certification
Committee Meeting
March 2, 2001
Wisconsin Technical College
System Board Office
Present:
Janice Jablonski, Milwaukee Area
Technical College
Nicholas Triscari, Milwaukee Area
Technical College
John Hamilton, Western Wisconsin
Technical College
Mary Peters, Chippewa Valley
Technical College
Mark Kearns, Wisconsin Indianhead
Technical College
Val Roeser, Wisconsin Indianhead
Technical College
Sharon Spangberg, WTCSB
Karen Lawlor, Waukesha County
Technical College
William Barribeau, Fox Valley
Technical College
Reba McColley, Lakeshore Technical
College
Dorothy Baumann, Guest, Lakeshore
Technical College
Kathy Cullen, WTCSB
Tom Grinde, WTCSB
Members Absent:
Kitty Willkomm Waukesha County
Technical College
Welcome/Introductions
The
meeting was called to order at 8:30 AM by Chairperson Karen Lawlor. Each member
and several guests introduced themselves to the Committee. Sharon introduced Tom Grinde as the new
Education Specialist working in Certification at the State Board office.
Approval of
Minutes
Several
corrections were made to the minutes.
John Hamilton’s name was added to the member present list and a deletion
on page 2, under the workplan, the sentence under section d. was listed twice,
therefore removed. A motion was made by
William Barribeau and seconded by John Hamilton to approve the revised minutes
of the December 6, 2000 meeting. Minutes were approved.
State Director Edward Chin addressed the Committee on his vision for the future of certification. Director Chin indicated he supports certification wholeheartedly, and has no plans to suggest any changes to the TCS Chapter 3 Certification Code. However, he spoke about the current and future environmental pressures placed on our system. These include competition from other private training providers, who are seeking to obtain financial aid eligibility for their students. Also, our important role as premier training provider for business and industry needs to be maintained. Our system needs to be flexible and responsive to this group. He encouraged the Committee members to give careful thought to the ACE proposal being reviewed today, to enhance our ability to deliver this type of instruction. He also talked about the potential labor shortage which could impact our ability to hire instructors, including attracting a diverse faculty. Some have expressed a concern over certification being perceived as a barrier to hiring minority instructors, and that is why we have asked each district to complete the minority hiring survey. He commented on the joint recruitment efforts of the district as being a positive thing. The group asked several questions, which Director Chin responded to. He does not expect any wholesale change to certification based on NCA standards. He also strongly feels that our system’s goal is to produce entry-level workers, and additional training for encumbent workers. When asked about the budget language related to certification, Director Chin stated the State Board did not ask for this language to be put into the budget, and he feels it will be excluded during the budget process. The group thanked Director Chin for the opportunity to hear his comments.
Administrative Rule Change Process
Jesus Garza, Legal Counsel for the WTCSB gave a presentation on the Administrative Rule Change process. One of the points that was clarified through this presentation, is that there is no rule that states the Certification Code has to be reviewed by any certain point in time. In other words, there is no sunset date for the current code to expire.
Transition to Trainer Professional
Development Opportunity
Marge Wood, Apprenticeship Consultant, gave a presentation on the newly developed courses: Transition to Trainer: “Your Role as a Journey Worker”(7 hrs), and the “Preparing to Teach the Transition to Trainer”(10 hrs). She shared the model Dacum. She thanked the Committee for their support in approving the 10hr course as a re-certification activity for part-time approval instructors. Everyone going through apprenticeship would take the 7 hour course. In order to teach the 7 hour course, an instructor must complete the 10 hour course. We are discussing numbering the course as a 50-196-500. Marge is meeting with State Board staff to determine feasibility of offering it as a credit course vs inservice. The recommendation from the Committee is to offer it as a 47 level course and to include the related information within Guideline 49. Marge will also e-mail Sharon on the list of participants so that information can be shared with the local certification officers.
Chippewa Valley Technical College submitted a revised plan which was reviewed by the members. Bill Barribeau made a motion, seconded by Mark Kearns to accept the revised plan. Motion carried.
Lou Chinnaswamy, Basic Education Consultant gave an update on the topic of Command Spanish and its’ relationship to certification. State staff decided to remove the language on Command Spanish from the 802 document. Lou handed out a proposal to incorporate Command Spanish into the ACE Guideline 49, which is currently under remodeling. The Committee reviewed recommendations from Lou on the appropriate groups of candidates who might teach Command Spanish, and made minor changes to the language that will be inserted into Guideline 49. Lou then indicated that we are waiting for information from Dr. Sam Slick related to an agreement he is negotiating with the Technical College System which would allow more flexibility in instructor assignment. These courses should only be offered under ACE. The Committee will wait for the agreement from Dr. Slick before taking formal action.
ACE Economic Development Plan
Sharon and Mike Carney gave an update on the work and input during January and February regarding this proposal. A discussion followed. John asked why the certification officers were more divided between the option, one, two and three. Some feel it is opening up the door for less than certifiable people to be used all the time, rather than on an exception basis. This could also result in those instructors slipping over to assignments to teach program level courses, which would not be acceptable. Karen asked that we not make rules exclusive to one group or another, this tends to cause confusion. Also, we should write the document in more positive terminology, that a person with unique qualifications is not less qualified than someone else, rather they are just following an alternate option to be certifiable. John Hamilton made a motion to accept the Option 1 recommendation: allow unique criteria for all ACE including 38.14 contracts delivered under aid code 42 and 47 courses. Seconded by Mary Peters. Passed unanimously. Karen also suggested we not use the word “pilot”, but indicate the new process would be evaluated after one year. Comments were made regarding the draft language within the guideline. It was noted that the existing alternative criteria need to be re-visited by the consultants at the State Board, to ensure their accuracy. Sharon will work with them and re-write the draft. The revision is effective June 1, 2001. Sharon and Mike will take it to the May 12th meeting of the ACE group.
Tiers for Industry Certifications
Mike Tokheim, Business Education Consultant presented a draft of CIS industry certifications that would be used for existing instructors to transition to a new instructional area. He explained that the certifications were picked based on the fact that they have an independent assessment process. He is taking the list to his CIS faculty group next week for final review and comment. Things in Tier One could possibly be received at the High School level. Things at the Tier Two level would not be available at the High School level. The Committee asked that he be very clear in indicating this is for existing instructors only. It would also be good to indicate on the relevant Appropriate Occupational Experience documents which certifications are acceptable. Mike also indicated he would need to have a panel of deans available to review any industry certifications not on the list. Mary asked that the state staff add a list of those programs considered new and emerging to that Guideline, and the list be kept current. Mike asked that the Committee send any future comments to him if he should look at the model differently. He plans to bring the final draft to the next Committee meeting, including what program areas he would like designated new and emerging. This will most likely be the 152 and 154 area. Draft Appropriate Occupational Experience documents for 152 and 154 were shared with the group.
Review and Approval of New and revised Appropriate Occupational Experience Documents
Two
Occupational Experience Documents were brought for consideration by the
Committee. The 10-176-1 Records and
Information Management Technician program:
Mike Tokheim explained the history behind this program. While it has been discontinued by CVTC, it
is now offered on the web, and the occupational experience needed to be
updated. Mike also shared the 10-150-1
Network Communications Specialist document.
This program is the pioneer program for the state. A motion was made by Bill Barribeau and
seconded by Jan Jablonski. Passed
unanimously.
The Committee reviewed their assignments related to the topic of bringing staff development for certification in sync with NCA. Jan, Val and Reba discussed the research they did to review the academic guidelines for alignment with NCA standards. They met with their General Education supervisors locally and then followed up with a conference call to discuss the results. The discussion revolved around making 20 credits required within a concentration within each academic area. The subcommittee recommended that the Committee could meet with General Ed. Staff at their next meeting to discuss general concerns and perhaps changing the rule on the 20 credit concentration. However, it appears that prior to 1993, the rule was to have 20 credits within each specialty area. In 1993, when the Code was revised, this was loosened up to allow for more flexibility in hiring at the district level. After further discussion, it was decided no recommendation would be made to change our current Academic Guidelines. Mark asked if their could be a more consistent way for State staff to keep information flowing back to this Committee from the various working groups throughout the WTCSB.
The
second sub-topic was to discuss meeting both certification and NCA requirements
with the same activity. No specific
recommendations were made. Several
districts are implementing salary adjustments based on individuals meeting NCA
further education requirements. LTC is
working on a plan to give faculty tuition reimbursement for faculty working
towards an appropriate degree.
The
third sub-topic was the review of Guideline 13. Jan and Karen re-drafted this Guideline to allow more flexibility
in selecting renewal activities. Sharon
will post on the WebBoard and send this draft out to ISA and others for review
and comment.
The
fourth sub-topic was to prepare a matix to show the requirements for
certification next to the NCA requirements.
Mary and John presented the document they developed. The Committee commended them for this, and
Sharon will forward this to WTCSB consultants for use with district staff, and
to the local certification officers and Committee members.
The
fifth sub-topic was related to providing clear information at the time of job
posting and hire. Mary Peters shared a
copy of the screening tool their local screening committee uses and a sample of
a job posting used. She will forward an
electronic copy to Sharon for distribution as a model.
The
sixth sub-topic was done by Val, Reba and Jan while they reviewed Guideline
13.
Miscellaneous
Topics for and Setting Next Meeting Date
May 4th chosen as the next meeting date. Sharon will check into the Foundation availability. Topics include: acting on the final version of the ACE document, review and recommendation on the program areas to be considered New and Emerging, any further work on the 850 document. A phone call will be scheduled when Command Spanish is finalized. We need to elect a chair in fall, and also generate a list of topics, and Wislines for the next year.
Bill Barribeau made a motion, seconded by Reba to adjourn the meeting. Meeting adjourned at 2:30PM.